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The Death of Global WarmingViews: 143
Feb 18, 2010 12:37 am re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Death of Global Warming

Reg Charie
You claim to be a scientist Thomas but you seem to completely ignore your own observations in favor of continuing to berate those who push to treat this planet with a little more sanity.

Sure billions have been spent and properly so.
This is to try and combat the ka-zillions of dollars that have been made by raping the planet.

Intelligent people everywhere are wondering how our grandchildren are going to fare.

IF we go WAYYY back in Earth's history we see that there is a downward trend to global temperatures.

(As explained by Kirk A. Maasch, a professor in the Department of Geological Sciences at the University of Maine)

Between 52 and 57 million years ago tropical conditions actually extended all the way into the mid-latitudes (around northern Spain or the central United States for example), polar regions experienced temperate climates, and the difference in temperature between the equator and pole was much smaller than it is today.

Alligators lived in Ellesmere Island at 78 degrees North.

This warm period, called the Eocene, was followed by a long cooling trend. In North America, the mean annual air temperature dropped by approximately 12 degrees Celsius.

Between 20 and 16 million years ago, there was a brief respite from the big chill, but this was followed by a second major cooling period so intense that by 7 million years ago southeastern Greenland was completely covered with glaciers, and by 5-6 million years ago, the glaciers were creeping into Scandinavia and the northern Pacific region.

The Earth was once more released from the grip of the big chill between 5 and 3 million years ago, when the sea was much warmer around North America and the Antarctic than it is today. Warm-weather plants grew in Northern Europe where today they cannot survive, and trees grew in Iceland, Greenland, and Canada as far north as 82 degrees North.

We are still in the midst of the third major cooling period that began around 3 million years ago, and its effect can be seen around the world, perhaps even in the development of our own species. Around 2 and a half million years ago, tundra-like conditions took over north-central Europe. Soon thereafter, the once-humid environment of Central China was replaced by harsh continental steppe. And in sub-Saharan Africa, arid and open grasslands expanded, replacing more wooded, wetter environments. Many paleontologists believe that this environmental change is linked to the evolution of humankind.
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Now here we are in the middle of a global cooling trend and do we see evidence of this? no.. In fact it is the opposite. The evidence supports increasing temperatures.

And the question is not if mankind is having an effect on global warming. It is if mankind is having a detrimental effect on the environment, and it is a resounding HELL YA!..the environment is suffering from our mistreatment.

As an aside, while there are several factors that affect the temperature of our environment, none is as telling as the carbon cycle.

The position and height of the tectonic plates, the strength and paths of the ocean currents, the distance from the sun, solar activity, and the concentration of elements on land and in the atmosphere (other than carbon) all have an effect.



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