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The Reality of Climate ChangeViews: 137
Feb 27, 2010 5:14 am re: re: re: re: re: The Reality of Climate Change - Discipline in this network

Reg Charie
Lets look at one of those "truths" you posted Thomas.

>Item 7 ("Glaciers are melting")

>The UN IPCC just admitted that they were WRONG to project >that the Himalayan ice caps were melting. They're not.

I did a search on the Himalayan ice caps.
Here is what I found.

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The fact that glaciers in the Himalayan mountains are thinning is not disputed. However, few researchers have attempted to rigorously examine and quantify the causes. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory scientist Surabi Menon set out to isolate the impacts of the most commonly blamed culprit—greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide—from other particles in the air that may be causing the melting. Menon and her collaborators found that airborne black carbon aerosols, or soot, from India is a major contributor to the decline in snow and ice cover on the glaciers.

http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2010/02/03/black-carbon-himalayan-glaciers/

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Mount Kilimanjaro's top, shown in June, has lost 26 percent of its ice since 2000, a study says.
Eighty-five percent of the ice cover that was present in 1912 has vanished, the scientists said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/world/africa/03melt.html

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The Earth's ice cover is melting in more places and at higher rates than at any time since record keeping began. Reports from around the world compiled by the Worldwatch Institute (see attached data table) show that global ice melting accelerated during the 1990s-which was also the warmest decade on record.

Scientists suspect that the enhanced melting is among the first observable signs of human-induced global warming, caused by the unprecedented release of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases over the past century. Glaciers and other ice features are particularly sensitive to temperature shifts.
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/1673
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The Khumbu Glacier in Nepal, where Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay began their ascent of Everest, has retreated more than three miles since they climbed the mountain in 1953.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article542883.ece
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Aside from a few that claim that the Himalayan glaciers are not retreating, substantive measurements show that they are.

"The studies, according to the report, show that “All the glaciers under observation during the last three decades of 20th century have shown cumulative negative mass balance.” Degeneration of the glacier mass has been the highest in Jammu & Kashmir, relatively
lower in Himachal Pradesh, even lower in Uttarakhand and the lowest in Sikkim.”

And given that a significant population of India depends heavily on the run off water to survive, and that India is fighting any emission standards the Indian Government is doing all it can to put a "No shrinkage" spin on the problem.

However, the Web site Science Daily reported in 2007 that “satellite-imagery derived glacier surface topographies obtained at intervals of a few years were adjusted and compared. Calculations indicated that 915 square kilometers of Himalayan glaciers of the test region…thinned by an annual average of 0.85m between 1999 and 2004.” Satellite data from the Indian Space Applications Center in Ahmedabad, indicates that from 1962 to 2004, more than 1,000 Himalayan glaciers have retreated by around 16 percent. According to the Chinese Academy of Sciences, China’s glaciers have shrunk by 5 percent since 1950s.

There is more.
Much more supported by actual measurement and observation.

Less than honest? Hardly.


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