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| | The Innovation Network Network is not currently active and cannot accept new posts | | The Global Warming garbage pile explodes | Views: 389 | | Nov 20, 2009 10:37 pm | | The Global Warming garbage pile explodes | # | 
Thomas Holford | | "Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
". . . The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That)"
"When you read some of those files – including 1079 emails and 72 documents – you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”. These alleged emails – supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory – suggest:"
"Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more."
This is what the public gets for tens of billions of dollars of politician directed climate research grant money.
But, then, "global warming COULD have been true, so it was worth it to spend a hundred billion dollars on climate conferences in Bali and hookers and booze for U.N. bigwigs to know for sure that it ISN'T happening."
T. Holford
Private Reply to Thomas Holford | | Nov 28, 2009 3:50 pm | | re: The Global Warming garbage pile explodes | # | 
James Booth | | .
Defenders say hackers are "cherry-picking" phrases from exposed e-mails ...
A few thousand more pages to read in the lamplight to decide for sure
- if one can find time and space to think clearly about their contents.
Saying there is NO "Anthropogenic Global Warming" is akin to spitting in a bottle of water and then selling it as "pure water"
... yet a company selling tapwater as "pure springwater" is no less guilty of false advertising.
Assuming a reasonably well-informed jury could be found, that is.
Few of us talk with, or even know, an actual scientist
- how such a person thinks and works.
Makes it easy for pseudo-scientist to self-present as "scientific"
... since most folks do not much focus on what has been disproven.
Thus narrowing it down, we allow ourselves to be misled so easily.
Water itself is a much more pervasive "greenhouse gas" than is carbon dioxide
... so will we next be expected to limit our sweat also: a sweat tax on us ?
Earth - the entire universe - is pervaded with natural cycles
Birth and death - birth to death
Order to chaos and rebirth from "ashes"
Warming and cooling happens daily, small- and large-scale - naturally.
For "global warming" there is contrasted "global cooling" - and balance
- just as land, water and air cool in shadow, warm in sunlight, over and again.
For answers to scientific questions, ask scientists
Do NOT ask "congressional representatives"
- and make sure to check a scientist's pockets for politicians therein.
Government gets what it pays for ...
In science, education, research, technology, transportation and more
... withholding grants from anything else.
Likewise, free expression is distinguishable ...
Not only by its unique lack of *talking points*
... by its refusal to be bought and sold.
JBPrivate Reply to James Booth | | Nov 29, 2009 3:01 am | | re: re: The Global Warming garbage pile explodes | # |
Thomas Holford | | James Booth sayeth:
> Few of us talk with, or even know, an actual scientist
- how such a person thinks and works.
> Makes it easy for pseudo-scientist to self-present as "scientific"
> ... since most folks do not much focus on what has been disproven.
What the hell kind of argument is this?
There are LOTS of authentic scientists around who will GLADLY explain the principles of the scientific method to anyone who isn't busy watching Oprah or American Idol.
I can claim to be an actual scientist. I have a degree in Chemistry, did supervised academic research both in a university, and in an industrial laboratory, and have my listed as a co-author on actual peer-reviewed scientific papers published in actual science journals.
In contrast, the Academy Award Winning, Nobel Peace Prize Winning, ayatollah of human caused global warming, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., took ONE course in general science as a Harvard undergraduate and got a "C" in the course, attended divinity school and dropped out, and wrote an error filled PowerPoint presentation that was barred from presentation in British schools without disclaimers.
The fact that the human caused global warming theory does NOT meet the test of scientific credence among many authentic scientists is beyond dispute.
If people want to know WHY they don't thing global warming is credible, ASK the scientists and LISTEN TO THEIR ANSWERS.
T. Holford
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